Pens - Clinched
TC - Clinched (max 4 losses and have current head to head over Greyhounds)
Showtime - Clinched (max 4 losses and have head to head over Novacaine)

Banditos - (3-3) vs 7pt Spread, vs Outcast, vs Wolves
7pt Spread - (3-3-1) vs Banditos, vs Showtime
Novacaine - (4-4) vs Outcast
Badboys - (3-4) vs Outcast, vs Pens
Wolves - (5-3) vs Banditos
Greyhounds - (4-4) vs Pens

will be 7pt or Banditos. The game between those two will most likely decide the final seeding.

going to be the boyz

How so? they should beat Outcast, putting them at 4-4. Who knows if the Pens will play hard their last game against Badboyz since they have already clinched, but the worst badboyz can do is 4-5. Banditos need to win 2 out of their next 3, or they will be 4-5, and badboyz have the head to head over them. Then you have 7pt, who basically needs to win out.

Pens, Im still not convinced theyre legit. With playoff lives on the line, I think BBoyz and Hounds will beat them. In which case, it will put BBoyz (beat Caines), Hounds (beat BBoyz), and Caines (beat Hounds) all at 5-4 (assuming Boyz and Caines beat Outcast). Then I believe it comes down to Point Diff in the 3 way tie, which I believe will go to the Caines. They beat Hounds by 13, lost to BBoyz by 2. Hounds beat BBoyz by 1, lost to Caines by 13. BBoyz beat Caines by 2, lost to Hounds by 1.

That would mean Greyhounds were odd man out?

Im going to kidnap Manny before the game.

so looks more like hounds will be out

However, Hounds beat Banditos by 10. So if the Banditos also finish 5-4, then we have a real situation, as the Caines might be the odd man out since they lost to Banditos 28-0.

see any chance that hounds beat pens

What if Banditos beat Wolves and Outcast and lose to 7pt? Then Wolves, Caines,, Banditos, Hounds, and BBoyz all end up 5-4...and I think they are all 2-2 in that 5 way tie except Banditos who would be 1-3 witht heir only win of those teams coming against Caines.

let`s start writing this script - sounds like a good one!

Does anyone work? Just kidding, this is great. I think we need at least one more game before things really shake themselves out. Some big games this week and that Banditos vs. 7pt game at the end of the year could decide which of those two are in.

It`s possible that teams #2-#9 could finish with identical %, 5-4 or 4-3-2, which is why only one team in A is marked as having clinched a spot for now. If anyone can demonstrate here for me (given my possible scenario above) how any other team has technically clinched a spot in the top 8 I will mark that team as clinched. Don`t get me wrong - I am not suggesting no other team has (technically) - just that I haven`t bothered to do the headache math yet.

(you can assume TC for the time being will be the team in A assigned to play a B team for game #9...which will count in the standings)

I would say this is the most complex playoff situation in recent memory!

getting tight up in there

Our situation is tricky. We`re in a drivers seat to control our own destiny, but 1 loss and it gets extremely ugly.

My guess in the magic number is 5. As in, the first team to 5 losses will be on the outside looking in.

see 7 going 1-1 final 2 games

7pt needs to drop to B,im in the drivers seat now

i`m still alittle creeped out that miller might kidnap someone. hide your kids!

could easily be the odd man out, they will be on a 3 game slide to end the season

If they could easily be the odd man out, how come no one has voted for them?

I voted for them.

They`re done, got a couple lucky wins early on against Showtime and BadBoyz but showing their true colors right now. Gonna lose by 2 TDs next week and home for the playoffs

Got them going 1-2 to finsh the season. They haven`t won a game this season they they weren`t supposed to win. Also, got Badboys finishing up 1-1. Badboys have the head to head. Additionally, I have Hounds losing also, which have all three team with 4-5 records. Hounds have the head to head over both, thus Robots still on the outside.

the only team who truely beat our whole squad this year was 7pt and caines every other game we lose we had bad attends so with our whole squad were must be consider a contender for the ship

right, i think we can all say the same

You will see don`t act surprise we will re visit. This conversation

i wont be surprised, would be in complete shock if hounds won it all

That lose to 7pt, have 0% chance of winning it all.
x - Wolves
x - Hounds

7pt was just the champ now you say there chumps this league is funny kind of like redskin fans think there going to win every year

like cowboys fans, its always superbowl or bust

The same closets that are saying we should be in B are probably the same Lames that were praying we beat spartans last year. Love the closets

Parity at it`s finest. Makes for a great league

Anyone that thinks 7 pt should go to B is insane. On that note if we lose to the pens and go 4-5 we don`t have the right to be in the playoffs.

agreed on both

Its good for the league that only one team has really ran away from the pack which mean last season games count got to love it

will be interesting to see if Pens can go undefeated and close out with an A league ship

the wolves look bad this year

Come on ladies 7pt sux this season!!Quit pretending like 7pt is any good,they have average B talent now and belong at B!!Make these chumps drop to B and prove themselves

if you saw the 7pt/Caines (2nd Half) or 7pt/Greyhounds game, you would know these dudes are not f-ing around. Look out.

A league is more competitive this year than ever! And I promise Pens will not go undefeated and win it all!

no doubt that A is more competitive than ever. Hopefully we can keep the momentum through he Fall and bring home that state Ship

Drop these was been -sub par teams 7pt,outcast,hokies banditos to B and let the real A teams compete and maybe we will win A states ,this is bs all these teams crying about the last place final play off spot,yes they all s u ck

Who are the real A teams? Wolves, TC, Pens, showtime, Hounds, Badboyz and Novacaine? 7pt beat the wolves, lost to TC by 1, beat the Hounds, and lost to Novacaine by 4. Based on that, it sounds like they are competing just fine, no? Banditos are definitely suspect, but still only lost by 6 to Badboyz, lost by two td`s to both pens and hounds, but beat novacaine 28-0. I would say altogether that`s competitive. As for Hokies and outcast, not sure what`s up with them

7 pt is a B B B B team !!they need to Drop Drop to B,i agree with the rest of the league,you guys are bragging about getting in the playoffs with a losing record,come on man!7 pt is a good B team!!You belong with hokies and outcast

as well just be an open division since we feel there arent any A caliber teams

we always knew fairfax A was weak and watered down ,i read the last real A team u had was my plumber,7 point would be a C team in richmond in my opinion

would that make D-Mob a C team too?

Oh snaps snaps... no he just didn`t!!

Mr Kyle what are you the ball boy?I looked at the team picture you look like your a dupont circle fellow??Your 1 reason fairfax is so weak keeping players like yourself on a A team?what a joke

Its kinda sad that you are trolling through a different FLAG football leagues messageboard. Must not be much going on in your life, huh? What team do you play for anyways? If we`re gonna talk ish, might as well as figure out who the "comp" is.

Where was your team in States?

Not in the Finals.

Nobody here gives a cr@p about your flag football teams...go troll your own message board you self-glorifying jack-ass!

If Pens win:
7pt - 1 win and in
Novacaine - In (with likely win over Outcast)
Banditos - Need to win 2 out of 3, or win 1 and need Outcast to upset Caines
Badboys - Need Novacaine and/or Banditos to drop some games to get to same record
Wolves - In
Greyhounds - More than likely In if even with loss to Pens, because of pf/pa

All that being said, I think Robots miss if this happens.

Next...

If Boys win: (things aren`t as clear/pressing)
More pressure on Banditos, Greyhounds and Novacaine to win.

Bad thing for the Badboys is their pf/pa... they have head to heads vs Caines & Banditos, but if it comes down to pf/pa, they will possibly be on the outside looking in.

what a crying laughing joke,all these B teams playing A actually getting pumped to be in last place and make the playoffs,richmond is for winners always have always will,another example of weak ffx teams

STFU you don`t even know what you are talking about and you don`t even say which Richmond league you are from. The true players in that one league always say who they are when they post here and give props where it due. they are not biaches about that like a lot of teams from our own league are.Check out the top 10 of the state and tell me which league has the most. This guy is not from Richmond just a bored pretender.

what seed you are going into the playoffs, it`s how you finish. Just because a team goes in as one of the top seeds, doesn`t guarantee them a victory. An invitation to the party is all a team needs. You can`t be that ignorant that you don`t see this, Richmond Player?

im working in dc til july,we have maybe 1/5 of the total number of teams u guys have,our A teams bring it strong and we always have more ranked teams in A and B at states,i play JR exteriors tried out for gunz didnt make the cut,ffx has a ton of talent but lets be real you guys cry and whine to much,your A teams have 2-4 athletes with the rest of the pansies on the team,clear example of guys getting wet for making last place playoff spot

but if we combined our teams and had less teams (like your leagues) we would have just as talented teams. Our league is watered down. We would win States and Nationals if we had less watered down teams, but less people would get to play. It comes down to what you are playing for. Is it a rec league or are you trying to play ultracompetitively.

exactly, and boom goes the dynamite! Discussion over richmond. enjoy ur time in a real city till u get back to thatscarphole known as richmond.

@Richmond player. Your claim to fame is getting cut by the Gunz! Get a life bro. It`s flag football. You`re trolling jumping into a conversation not making sense. This is a relevant conversation because not every team makes the playoffs and it`s a very competitive spring season. I guess somehow everyone in Richmond leagues are all on winning teams since "Richmond is for winners" Congratulations everyone gets a medal just like elementary school kids

Didn`t our FFX team (TC) end your teams state run in round 1? Go home.

last dec states actual scores:

Triple Crown 28 James River Exteriors 21
7 PT Spread 24 D-Mob 21
The Penetrators 17 Soldier 13

Teligon Gunz 29 Novacaine 0
Teligon Gunz 24 Triple Crown 21 (championship)

so Gunz went 2-0 against Fairfax, the rest of Richmond went 0-3 against Fairfax. Talk about the Gunz is fine they are #1 and have been for a long time but don`t stand behind the Gunz barking when you can`t beat a Fairfax team yourself LOL.

Good Stuff Grove and Results. He got cut by Gunz so now he talks ish!!!!

Like I said.. I tried out for Gunz, so it`s fair for me to rep them as my squad. They just said I was a bit too slow for the game they like to play. But i`ve been in the gym and this year they gonna take notice of me.. you will see FFX.. we run it!

no its not fair to rep them as your squad. only squad you should rep is the team who u actually play for D.I.C.K ryder

"I tried out for Gunz, so it`s fair for me to rep them as my squad"

What a tool bag!!

Anyone can tryout. Does everyone who`s ever tried out for Gunz get to rep them as their team? When you play against Gunz do you rep them still?

your team sux bro,u used to be decent you suck now!!FACT

That`s cool if you feel that way. I enjoy A league and the competition. if a .500 team needs to drop down to B then I guess A will be a four team league. Your world closets

"A "is to watered down in ffairfax i agree,we used to have a ton of talent at the A level,now with outcast,hokies,7pt,banditos these are all good B teams on there best night,i say we cut it to 8 ligit A teams and put the rest in B or B+

hey 8 year, STFU. go back to your cave if you feel the league is watered down, or go play in richmond

only get rid of outcast hokies banditos on the fence but 7pt in a A team all the way.

everybody who`s complaining that the league is watered down, are the same people who would complain that the same 1 or 2 teams win every year if we trimmed the talent.

Richmond chooses to only have a couple of A teams that are "stacked" with talent. Yet 3 of their "A" teams lost to our watered down A teams.

And for everyone who hates on Outcast, 7Pt, Ditos, etc, calling them B teams. Its real easy to call teams out when posting anonymously. We know that these teams burned you at some point either by kicking you off the team, or beating the cr@p out of your team. They have all earned the right to play in A.

good post ^

i played in Va Beach A and ffx A,110% Va beach has all ligit A teams,banditos 7 pt outcast would have to play coed at the beach,yes A ffx is drowning with pu$$y teams that dont belong at A thats why you guys never win states

Lol let me guess you tried out for Firm and they cut you like homeboy up top got cut by the Gunz. It`s flag football the teams in A in ffx would do the same everywhere else. I`ve played in VA beach league as well right out of school when I stayed in that area and the competition was the same. States, barkbowl the results speak for themselves.

are there people from different FLAG football leagues posting here? Is there really not THAT much going on in your lives?? lol, this is flag football. And if our A teams were not competitve, there would be terrible results in states, nationals, and other tournaments. As Grove said - the results speak for themselves. Now, stop trolling our boards and get a life. Stop drinking that Haterade!

i doubt it`s other people trolling the boards from those leaguew, probably somebody from this league looking for some type of closet fix.

It`s Tom trying to get us fired up for States! Why do you do this to us, Tom?

cody and fatboy groves are B players,both of you guys are weak links,dont need to troll to long to figure out why A is watered down! these 2 clowns are a prime example plus kyle

are a true A talent...just having an off year.

now lets get excited now if 7pt can make last place cuz b boyz lost to pens,

whoz your daddy nowcody a groves

LOOK LIKES 7PT JUST MAYBE DONE

is down to the hounds, ditos, badboyz and caines

WITH TEAM GET IN A MAKE SOME NOISE DITOS,BADBOYZ, HOUNDS OR CAINES

7 pt takes it down. Don`t sleep on them, they are looking good.

not a chance, IF 7pt gets in, they still lose 1st game

who the hell is Tito? He does make sense though

7pt is arguebly one of the best teams in this league. They have almost every teams # in A. Regular season don`t mean a thing! If every team brought out their playoff squad each game, you would see a significant difference in the records and level of play. Once the playoffs start its a new year and everyone is 0-0!

They were one of the best. I don`t think they have fallen too far however and are still solid, but I don`t see them beating Pens, Showtime or TC come playoffs.

Everyone knows it comes down to the winner of the Banditos vs 7PT game to see who is in and who is out.

I think more teams would rather see Banditos get in. Everyone knows 7PT can bring it. Would you rather play a one time B+ Champion, or a 2 time A Champ?

I think 7PT Beats Banditos in a close game to close out the season.

7pt is done !They need to drop back to B and re-group